By Grace P. Cho and Caroline Triscik

Grace P. Cho: Take Heart

“We want women to know that they’re not alone and that it doesn’t have to be a pretty bow at the end of our stories ... in the midst of the hard thing, that God is still there and that we can see him in those places.”​ 

— Grace P. Cho

Listen in on our conversation with writer and poet Grace P. Cho where we discuss her endurance through the many challenges of this past year, Grace’s personal experience with Covid-19, and the recently published book of devotionals she co-edited.

This past fall, I began to notice the phrase take heart appear in small quiet ways in my life — through songs, through conversation, and in my time in Scripture. One day during that season, a promotion of Take Heart: 100 Devotions to Seeing God When Life’s Not Okay caught my eye. When I discovered that Grace P. Cho was one of the editors of this compilation, I invited her to be a second-time guest on our podcast here at The Well to talk about the book and share how she has endured since we last spoke a year ago. In our conversation, Grace invites us into her experience of contracting Covid-19, her journey of sharing her voice through poetry, and the spiritual practices that have recently helped her sense God’s grace more deeply. Grace also shares about Take Heart and thanks to (in)courage, we are able to offer a copy to one of our listeners. Listen in on our conversation to hear how you can be entered to win!

— Caroline Triscik


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About the Author

Grace P. Cho is a Korean American writer, poet, speaker, and the Editorial Manager at (in)courage. In the middle of her years as a pastor, she felt a pull toward using her words to lead others in a broader context. She believes storytelling can create movements that change the world and desires to elevate women of color’s voices in the publishing industry. Grace is the co-editor of Take Heart: 100 Devotions to Seeing God When Life’s Not Okay and the author of the (in)courage Bible study, Courageous Influence. Learn more at @gracepcho and

Caroline served with InterVarsity since 2002 as a campus staff member in northwest Indiana and most recently in central Pennsylvania. She received her bachelor’s degree in English with a focus on creative writing from Purdue University in 2002 and holds a master's degree in clinical mental health counseling from Messiah College. Caroline, her husband, and their three children live in “the sweetest place on earth,” otherwise known as Hershey, Pennsylvania. In her spare time, she likes to read, discover new music, and attempt to train her exuberant Labrador retriever, Pax. Caroline is a clinical mental health counselor and a former associate with Women in the Academy and Professions.

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