By Caroline Triscik and Grace P. Cho

Grace P. Cho: The Vast Love of God

“I have this picture in mind of myself as a tiny, tiny person in the hands of God, and that his hands are vast and the world is vast, not in an overwhelming way, but in a ‘there’s actually still good in this world’ way.” — Grace P. Cho

Listen in as WAP associate Caroline Triscik interviews writer and editor Grace P. Cho. In this conversation, Grace invites us into her personal journey growing up as the Korean-American daughter of a pastor and missionaries, and on to becoming a writer and mother. Grace shares how the re-examination of her conservative upbringing led her to see God as more vast, wide, and mysterious, which in turn helped her become more gracious and compassionate toward herself and others.

I adored my recent conversation with Grace P. Cho, particularly her candid reflections on her faith journey and identity development as a Korean-American woman. Even though much of our conversation kept circling back to the theme of pain and suffering, we found ourselves laughing quite a bit as well. Grace’s authenticity and humility shine through as she offers thoughts on the daily routines that keep her connected to Christ and her family, as well as ways she is finding hope even in the midst of disorienting days. I hope you’ll enjoy this conversation as much as I did.

—  Caroline Triscik

You can listen on iTunes or at All Shall Be Well: Conversations with Women in the Academy and Beyond. We hope you enjoy this conversation as much as we did.

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About the Author

Caroline served with InterVarsity since 2002 as a campus staff member in northwest Indiana and most recently in central Pennsylvania. She received her bachelor’s degree in English with a focus on creative writing from Purdue University in 2002 and holds a master's degree in clinical mental health counseling from Messiah College. Caroline, her husband, and their three children live in “the sweetest place on earth,” otherwise known as Hershey, Pennsylvania. In her spare time, she likes to read, discover new music, and attempt to train her exuberant Labrador retriever, Pax. Caroline is a clinical mental health counselor and a former associate with Women in the Academy and Professions.

Grace P. Cho is a Korean American writer, poet, speaker, and the Editorial Manager at (in)courage. In the middle of her years as a pastor, she felt a pull toward using her words to lead others in a broader context. She believes storytelling can create movements that change the world and desires to elevate women of color’s voices in the publishing industry. Grace is the co-editor of Take Heart: 100 Devotions to Seeing God When Life’s Not Okay and the author of the (in)courage Bible study, Courageous Influence. Learn more at @gracepcho and

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